ANARCHISTS?????

Ben Gvir, the National Security Minister, refers to them as anarchists. I saw it on Arutz 7. I don’t know if it is allowed to cite other websites here, if not, I apologize. Please edit it out. This is what I found

Asked why he insists on calling demonstrators protesting against the judicial reform “anarchists”, the minister replied, “The majority of the public that I know and see support my statements and understand what I meant. There are those demonstrators who cry out from their hearts and that is important. As someone who demonstrated for a long time, I understand them and will fight for their right to demonstrate. Who are those anarchists I’m talking about? The ones who harassed the Prime Minister’s wife at the salon, who we saw throw an iron fence at a policeman or who dismantled roadblocks. They want to bring about anarchy and I make no apologies to them. I will continue to call them anarchists and it only saddens me that Yair Lapid and Benny Gantz, instead of condemning them, encourage this behavior.”

I’ve also noticed that when I accidentally catch a glimpse of the dumpster fire that is the home page before I quickly click on the “Coffee Room” button in the upper right to save my eternal soul.

Calling them anarchists makes them sound way cooler than they actually are. When I first noticed a headline use it, I thought there was actually a real anarchist movement in Israel, and I was like “woah sweet!” But, then it was just disappointingly about boring-old, government-loving liberals.

>>>They are fascists (ones who desire a strong government, under their control because they are right rather than because they have popular support, and opposed to democracy especially if the wrong people win the election).

That isn’t fascism. The far right and the far left BOTH support giving the government unrestrained power to carry out their agenda. If anything I would call them Autocracists which is the name for those who support dictatorships.

The arguments for the continued power of the court to strike down laws based on the reasonableness clause basically go as follows: The public can not be trusted to make the right decision through its elected officials so it need independent unelected judges to have veto power over the elected officials who will ensure they are reasonable and responsible . That is the standard pro dictatorship argument and belief that those who support dictatorships make.

There are millions of Israelis who are vehemently against these reforms. They aren’t fascists or anarchists. When you shown this contempt and deligitimization for a significant portion of Israel’s population (the majority in my opinion), your contributing to extremely negative polorazation.

Dan the> (the majority in my opinion)

this is why they run elections and, in Israel, pretty often. If you are, for some reason, interested in Jewish opinion (as this is the society you mostly live in), it is probably 60+% who voted for the parties supporting coalition. You are simply denying reality that there are so many people who disagree with you.

If they really wanted to curb the judiciary they would let the supreme court override the new law curbing the judiciary’s power and then cut the court’s budget by 10% for the following year. That is one thing the court can’t override. I think it may take a year or two before they play nice.

I’m confused, does the court in Israel have the power to create new laws, or is it just like America where they just strike down laws? My instinct as someone who likes freedom is that it should be as difficult as possible to make news laws, so I’m confused as to why people (especially what appears to be the conservative side) would oppose a strong judicial branch.

>>>I’m confused, does the court in Israel have the power to create new laws, or is it just like America where they just strike down laws?

Officially they can’t create new laws but technically they can. If a petition is brought to them claiming that the government is being unreasonable for NOT doing something they can and have forced it to act. Therefore they do have power to create laws. –

>>>My instinct as someone who likes freedom is that it should be as difficult as possible to make news laws

This is the actually the first time I’ve seen anyone argue in favor of the supreme court with an argument that borders on anarchy.

>>>I’m confused as to why people (especially what appears to be the conservative side) would oppose a strong judicial branch.

Unelected people who are accountable to no one being able to strike down any laws they want because they say it is “unreasonable” isn’t judicial review. It’s dictatorship

The Keenest has the power to lower the budget and here are a few example when they did. When Lapid’s Party was in charge weren’t there cut’s in the aid to Haredi families and to yeshivas. Were these not cuts to their budget. Likewise, wasn’t the Arab sector promised Billion of Shekels in aid in order to get them to be part of the government and when Likud came in power the Arab sector’s budget was cut. So it does happen. The Supreme Court did not put a stay on the judicial overhaul law just agreed to hear the case. Another thing the government can due is make a law that the Supreme Court must reflect the population of Israel. So if the Haredis make up 20% of the population then 20% of the Supreme Court should be Haredi. Thereby diluting the power of the leftist.