Tipping Waiters/Waitresses Properly

That isn’t a chilul Hashem. Stick to your job. Tell their bosses to give them raises. The prices of kosher are expenses as is and you are part of the cost.

Tipping is not optional, which defeats the supposed purpose and is in fact very silly, but if you don’t tip, the waiter basically doesn’t get paid.

What do you mean by “stick to your job”?

He is sticking to his job. He’s not berating the restaurant’s patrons, he’s pointing out that workers who depend on tips ought to be tipped. If you can afford to eat in a restaurant, you can afford to tip.

Its the responsibility of the restaurant owners to pay their employees fairly, not the customers. Customers already pay the price of labor.

The prices of kosher food leave less money for customers to tip

Worst argument ever.

The tip should be factored in when you figure what you’re able to afford.

If you believe that someone deserves a tip, not giving it to them just because you spent your money elsewhere is selfish at the least.

Also just a side point about tipping: that extra few dollars means a lot more to the waiter than it does to you.

If you feel the waiter did a good job (though most times it’s the chef who’s slow or if food is made too fast it won’t come out right) it’s your right to tip. Paying waiter shouldn’t be thr responsibility of the customer. The customer already pays for labor.

“The fact is that waiters’ salaries are based on the assumption that they will be supplemented by tips. This is not the case with other employees.”

Why is the customer responsible for the salary level or compensation level of employees at a business he’s only a consumer at? Logically that’s entirely the responsibility of the business owner, not his customers.

Meno so we should all be sheep and follow

Maybe if people would not FRESS themselves in restaurants as often as they do, they would have money to TIP when they did go.

Tipping is entirely optional.
I’ve been to places that don’t pay salaries and the tip gets included on the bill in the total cost.
I assume most places where I live, in Israel pay salaries.

If I feel like tipping I will.
If my waiter didn’t do a good job I definitely won’t.

In the USA tipping is expected. The IRS will affix a minimum 8% tip level to server’s income if it feels tips are under-reported. Servers in restaurants have to tip out set percentages to bartenders, hostesses and busboys. So, if you stiff the server, he/she may still have to take 5% of the checks for the shift out of his.her pocket and pay the other workers. Then he/she may get a tax bill for that income not made.

15% went away in the 1980s. 20-25% of the pre tax bill is a proper tip in 2018. If you cannot afford to tip, go to a joint without table service, you don’t have to stay home. BUT, if you have service pay for it.

Similarly, push your state legislators to raise servers’ minimum wage to the same as everyone else and get rid of tipping altogether.

“Also if the waiter/Waitress doesn’t do a good job & you feel they don’t deserve a tip or less of a tip you are mechuyav to tell the Waiter/Waitress that you are not tipping them because of their bad service this way they know why you didn’t tip them & would avoid the chillul Hashem.”

That does nothing to reduce the alleged chillul Hashem. The waiter will hate you, or Jews, all the same if not more if you tell him to his face that he provided shoddy service so you’re not tipping him, then if you simply walked out without a tip or a comment.

Furthermore, your idea of telling him why you’re not tipping does nothing to alleviate many of the above reasons given in this thread as to who tipping is allegedly mandatory.

allegedly mandatory

Why allegedly? Do you think Rav Belsky didn’t actually write that? Does anyone disagree?

I didn’t see anything about Rav Belsky commenting on this issue.

I posted a link above

But even if he did you can’t assume other poskim who didn’t comment on the issue necessarily agree with him.

Au contraire, you can’t assume anyone disagrees without reliable information.

@Joseph

Who is THEY? you refer to…….
As of the 1990s most travel guides for tourists coming to NY listed 20% as the expected or common tip percentage.
It wasn’t about being greedy, but providing servers with a living wage.
In 2018 any 16 year old working at McDonald’s here in CT starts at state minimum wage of $10.10 hour, but a 45 year old server with 25 years experience is legally only paid the server’s minimum wage rate of $6.38 and is expected to earn the difference through tips.
In NY, that kid at McDs gets $7.50/hr minimum wage and the experienced server is paid $4.00 plus tips.
That’s ludicrous.
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If you and Mrs. J go into a sit down restaurant for lunch and the bill is $60 before tax. A $12 tip is appropriate. The server will be expected to tip out $3 to other personnel on your check. The $9 for serving you for an hour is not much. Remember for much of the shift, it is not lunch time and business and tip income may be lower.

I support a $15 minimum wage bill (coming in CT) and no tipping

“Maybe every employee should get a tip? Maybe the cashier at a grocery should get ripped as well”

As a cashier sometimes I work the outside register (selling plants,ice,snacks) sometimes someone will give me a tip or when I’m out there and I see someone needing assistance to get their groceries to their car ( not my job but if a cart guy is not around and I see someone elderly or handicapped that needs assistance i help out) sometimes they will give me a buck. Never expected but always appreciated.

In NY, that kid at McDs gets $7.50/hr minimum wage and the experienced server is paid $4.00 plus tips.
That’s ludicrous.

Why is that ludicrous?

Tipping is something the #MeToo movement should have gotten rid of.

There was an article in one of the yiddish magazines ‘Inyan?) few years ago an interview with one of the SATMAR REBBES ZT’L hois baucher (personal attendant..have his name) on the Rebbes daily down to earth life (in the 50’s). Among the episodes he mentioned , there was once when he came home with the Rebbe with taxi. After they went into apt the Rebbe asked him ‘did you give tip?’ he said ‘No’ and the Rebbe was upset and told him ‘Dont you know in America the minhuk is to tip?, also you caused a chillil Hashem’

Higher minimum wages causes job losses.