Why haven’t the Gedolei Hador & Leaders of Klal yisroel made a zman Teshuva with

I don’t understand – why do the ????? ???? need to make a ??? of ????? ????? ????? if God did already?

“why don’t YOU work on yourself to be a better person. I’m sure that would influence the people around you and the would grow.”

“I don’t understand – why do the ????? ???? need to make a ??? of ????? ????? ????? if God did already?”

Your advice is commonsense and in an ideal world it would be practical. Instead, we are all busy with our lives and unless our Gedolim (whom we tend to listen to as if they have nevuah direct from God) tell us how serious the situation is, we will believe someone else’s merits will save all our necks.

This severity of a threat has been on our people time and time again in our history, and the above suggestions didn’t save the day. It took until the Gedolim explained how grave the situation was and set aside time for fasting/mourning/repentance that our people took it seriously and merited a yeshuah.

Seems like they are… http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/worldwide-jewish-simultaneous-prayer-for-gueula

I agree with you & think you should go to the gedolim in Eretz yisroel & chutz la’aretz & ask them to start very soon so nothing else happens to our holy nation g-d forbid

People don’t learn mussar anymore, they think this is only for if you want to be a tzaddik. This would be better than having one day off for fasting. They have too many agendas of their own to be their best them.

HaL, your idea sounds good on paper, but you don’t seem to realize how impossibly difficult it would be.

You’ll never make the parents happy. If you invite everyone to benefit from your ‘system’, they’ll complain about their children being exposed to a child from a home where they don’t eat galla on Shabbos, or the mother wears nail polish, or the father was once seen wearing a shirt with a stripe that was not pure white. If you are more selective then there will be an outcry over that.

Everyone will disagree about what you are teaching those little kids- too much, too little, and everything in between. Don’t even get me started on translating a passuk of Chumash into Yiddish. And learning Gemara too fast, or too slow, too much bekius, too much b’iyun, or just not perfectly enough for their little geniuses.

And who, may I ask, is going to pay for this venture? Ha! Didn’t even occur to you, did it?! Every single parent will tell you they can’t afford to pay for your service. And just wait until a parent sees one of your teachers or administrators buying more than a milk and a bread at their local grocery, or actually driving a car, or wearing shoes that are still attached to their soles… Do you realize the implications? the horror? that you would have the chutzpah to ask them to fund this?

No. I vote your idea has too many pitfalls to be viable.

Let’s go back to yungerman’s idea.

Dear Golfer,

In regard to your response to Haleivi, please look up the expression, tongue-in-cheek. Heleivi was merely describing the current yeshiva system.

I may be wrong but I think golfer may respond in kind to you regarding her post -29

Thanks -29!

Of course you are not wrong!

“Just those words show arrogance. Who died and made you the judge of Gedolim?

Seriously, you are treading on thin ice.”

Just those words show arrogance. Who died and made you the judge of other posters?

Seriously, you are treading on thin ice.

(note that this doesn’t apply to me because of Anonymous’s Law of Incorrigibility and Long Names For Laws That Could Really Just Use a Really Short Name But Choose Not To)

methinks that if a gadol would get up and say something like that the laitzonim and backbenchers would have a field day,thus causing many good souls to be embarassed to listen, thus negating the whole point, sadly

The mitzva of teshuva is at all times. If it would be a mitzva only when appropriate, women would be exempt………