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  • mobico
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    Shkoyach! Thank you for sharing, and for writing this vort up so nicely.

    in reply to: Am I missing something? #2187008
    mobico
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    Participant: That was uncalled for. Please keep thing civil.

    in reply to: Why BDE #2180673
    mobico
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    This is longtime pet peeve of mine. Not a big deal in the Scheme of Things, but – I agree.

    in reply to: Rebbetzin Weinberg z”l #2173887
    mobico
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    Refoel Zeev:

    I have been wondering the exact same thing. You are right – about the lack of reporting, and that it should have been obvious, and that the confusion about it proves your original point!

    mobico
    Participant

    Who are you talking to about each other already? Presumably, due to Tznius parameters, parents and mentors. With your parents, use his / her name. With mentors, say, “The Bachur / girl I’m going out with”.

    in reply to: Game Room In Yeshiva #2134082
    mobico
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    Yes. There are many mainstrem Yeshivos that have done this. It is indeed a more recent phenomenon, but IMHO it is normal and good. It provides a safe, healthy outlet for the guys without them leaving Yeshiva. It promotes camradarie amongst the Chevra. And as a rule, it is locked during Seder. Much better then sending time on a phone, no?

    in reply to: Shofar Maintenance #2122652
    mobico
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    Anyone who blows regularly knows that there is a gradual buildup of saliva and other detritus that block easy and clear blowing, and also affect the sound.

    in reply to: Shofar Maintenance #2122369
    mobico
    Participant

    Store where it won’t fall from a height. If dusty, rinse. When buildup accrues inside from blowing, twist pipe cleaners together, 2 or 3 thick, lengthening if necessary by attaching them at the ends. Pour water and a bit of dish soap into the Shofar, and insert pipe cleaners, twisting, puling, and pushing. Rinse thoroughly.

    in reply to: Talmeidei Chachamim with kids not like them #2110516
    mobico
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    R’ Menachem,

    IMHO, this is the point. The only Heter to hate a Yid is if he is no longer Achicha b’Mitzvos (subject to othe factors in addition). Anything else – personality conflicts, rivalries, etc. – constitutes Ahavas Chinam – for no reason. The default is Ahavas Yisrael. If Ahavah and Sinah can both be Chinam, then the implication is that the deafult state is neutrality. But this is not true. This is what I meant in my comment earlier by Ahavas Yisrael being stronger than Ahavas Chinam.
    Anyway, to the best of my knowledge, the term Ahavas Chinam was coined by R’ Kook ZT”L. I did not know that it was used by the Lubavitcher Rebbe. These were great people to be sure! What I have written is based upon my Kabbalah from my Rebbeim.
    It does not seem to me that we are in any great disagreement; ultimately, we are espousing the same approach.

    in reply to: Talmeidei Chachamim with kids not like them #2110416
    mobico
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    Menachem,

    I know of no Mekor for the Chiluk you prsent. The term “Ahavas Yisrael” MEANS loving a Jew for no other reason other than he is a Jew. That which he is a Jew IS A REASON to love him. Ahavas Chinam, a term Chazal never used, to me implies that there is no reason to love him but you should anyway. I am not even sure what to do with that.

    in reply to: Talmeidei Chachamim with kids not like them #2110162
    mobico
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    First of all, every case is different. Menasheh was also a big Talmid Chaccham. The Gemara says he “went off” due to Taivos. Sounds like a fine comparison to many these days to me. I do not recall saying or implying that we should not show any children anything other tham love and compassion.
    Secondly, I was making only one point, based on the OP – it is not a new ide that great Talmidei Chachamim have children who are “not like them”.
    Thirdly, Ahavas Yisrael is much more powerful than Ahavas Chinam.

    in reply to: Talmeidei Chachamim with kids not like them #2110090
    mobico
    Participant

    A good parallel for current OTD kids would be Chizkiyahu ha’Melech, who was one of our greatest Tzadikim to the point of having nearly been Mashiach. And his son was Menasheh, the greatest Chotei u’Machti Es Harabim ever, whose actions nearly singlehandedly led to the Churban, and who according to some lost his entire Chelek in Olam Haba.

    in reply to: Talmeidei Chachamim with kids not like them #2109729
    mobico
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    I certainly agree with the general point of the article, which is, after all, a Gemara! However – I have not seen a correlation at all. Of course, my perception is greatly limited. If the Gemara says that this is a cause, then it is a factor.

    in reply to: Talmeidei Chachamim with kids not like them #2109730
    mobico
    Participant

    Also, many to most Talmidei Chachamim have large families, and not all of their children necessarily follow the same path.

    in reply to: Cherem Rabbeinu Gershom #2102566
    mobico
    Participant

    IIRC, reading other people’s mail was certainly Asur. R”G gave it the Chomer of a Cherem due to that which he saw that in his Dor it was an issue.
    I also recall that he set it for 1000 years, at which point it would automatically renew itself unless a set number of Chachamim would stop it from doing so. This occurred (or rather, didn’t occur) some 30-40 years ago.

    in reply to: WHY DO LITVOCKS ALWAYS SAY TACHNUN?? #2090187
    mobico
    Participant

    Why do Chasidim always say Shemoneh Esrei?

    in reply to: Youthful Misconceptions #2081299
    mobico
    Participant

    Based on where I grew up, I used to think that if you were REALLY Frum, you Davened Nusach Ashkenaz.

    in reply to: Superbubbles #2063157
    mobico
    Participant

    Nah – they’re what you can create on the beach in early morning using the wind, the right soap/water mixture, and an adjustable wand.

    in reply to: Seriously Wondering #2057076
    mobico
    Participant

    Yes. Some did, and some didn’t.

    in reply to: Silence #2048867
    mobico
    Participant

    Here is a Shiur by R’ Shraga Feivel Zimmerman on this topic:

    https://www.torahanytime. com/#/lectures?v=173791

    in reply to: Protecting the innocent and false accusations #2048501
    mobico
    Participant

    As posted on a different thread as well, some relevant thoughts from R’ Mordechai Kuber, well-respected Rav in Telzstone:

    In Defense of the Undefended
    Follow-up

    On Erev Shabbos Parshas Vaeira, I posted an article about the Chaim Walder tragedy. Since then, I had the opportunity to engage in a number of discussions, including with a well respected Posek. Although I still stand by the basic principles of my original piece, it is important to clarify some points and further elaborate, based on that which I have learned since then:
    • I am not, and no Rav that I know is or ever has been, in favor of ignoring allegations of abuse. We all recognize the horrible, lifelong consequences of abuse and the need to act swiftly and resoundingly to protect victims from predators.
    • Despite these shared concerns and goals, we all must be aware that the Torah’s laws guide our every action. We may do, say, and believe that which the Torah permits, and we must refrain from that which the Torah prohibits. No end, as important and critical as it may be, justifies prohibited means.
    • Some of the technical issues that could stand in the way of the acceptance of an allegation of sexual abuse are the absence of the accused and the lack of witnesses.
    • Despite these issues, any allegation in a Beis Din of abuse will lead to Beis Din’s immediate demand that the accused maintain complete distance from the victim, which affords full protection for the future. If the accused violates this injunction, Beis Din will enforce it as necessary. Any implication from that which I originally posted to the contrary was unintentional.
    • If there are multiple allegations to the point that Beis Din suspects that the accused is guilty, even in the absence of witnesses, Beis Din will warn him to cease and desist from anything resembling inappropriate contact immediately. If he ignores this warning, Beis Din will banish him from the community with full force.
    • Today, in Eretz Yisrael, there are Batei Din that specialize in this field, which are fully proficient in the laws governing when the requirements for the presence of the accused and male and/or adult witnesses could be waived.
    • In general, one is not allowed to believe or pass along any negative information about another, even if it is in the newspaper.
    • In general, people expose themselves to needless amounts of unnecessary information about goings on through their ownership of certain devices and their subscription to various services. Blissful ignorance of the world around is infinitely preferable to a self-inflicted information barrage. I was very pleased to learn that most people without these devices and subscriptions were almost completely unaware of the CW tragedy, and very sad to learn that those who indulge were well informed of an astounding amount of harmful, sordid details.
    • Even when one is allowed to pass along negative information, it has to be for a constructive purpose. The most common constructive purpose is the protection of the one who will be hearing it, but there are other possibilities. There are many other conditions that have to be met regarding content and tone, and tests of altruism that must be passed. This is true even in cases of allegations of sexual abuse.
    • In a case of multiple reports of distinct sinning, the case has moved from the category of an alleged crime to that of one who has developed a reputation of sinning. Multiple reports are not equivalent to staggering evidence in support of the allegations. Nevertheless, developing such a reputation is a transgression in its own right, which allows Beis Din to punish the accused for it, and allows others to relate this information to the extent that it is purposeful.
    • In the CW case, the reports of sinning had reached this stage, allowing others to pass along these reports to the extent that it is purposeful to do so and that it is one’s intent. But it is not license for random slander. As always, one has to be very careful of his intentions. There is great harm to all concerned in relaying damaging information, even when permissible and even when necessary. Sometimes there is no choice, but it should be passed along with a heavy heart.
    • With CW’s passing, there is no longer any purpose in spreading these reports, even if there had been before. It has been explained to me by those with intimate knowledge of the Gedolim’s opinion that they desire that continued discussion of this topic should be brought to a halt immediately, because it is harmful to all concerned, especially to the young.
    • It is undeniable that CW left this world by taking his own life. Suicide is absolutely forbidden and it is equivalent to murder. Regardless of whatever he was going through, there is no justification for such a terrible act. This is a terrible, final legacy for him to have left his many present and potential future followers. Therefore, I was advised by a prominent Rav, in contradiction to my previous opinion, that there is no choice but to purge his books from the stores, from the libraries, and from our homes. It is certainly sad to have to give up one of the few truly valuable and appropriate series of contemporary books, but to hold on to them would only condone in some way this terrible crime. We cannot allow our children to think that suicide is ever acceptable, and that it is anything but murder. In addition, since the reports of other sinning had created their own reality of transgression, there is the risk of condoning that as well.
    • This tragedy should reinforce in us all the importance of avoiding situations of prohibited yichud. No one is immune, and it is asking for trouble.
    • It should also reinforce for us the dangers of inappropriate devices and social media. It exposes us to an overload of harmful images and information and enables widespread damage with a few thoughtless clicks. Yes, I mentioned this above but it is worth additional mention. Kosher phones are the best, by far. They prevent much grief and keep at a distance the sadness and unsavory details of the world at large.
    • Let us all pray for b’soros tovos.

    in reply to: Silence #2048500
    mobico
    Participant

    Here are some relevant thoughts by R’ Mordechai Kuber, a well-respected Rav in Telzstone:

    In Defense of the Undefended
    Follow-up

    On Erev Shabbos Parshas Vaeira, I posted an article about the Chaim Walder tragedy. Since then, I had the opportunity to engage in a number of discussions, including with a well respected Posek. Although I still stand by the basic principles of my original piece, it is important to clarify some points and further elaborate, based on that which I have learned since then:
    • I am not, and no Rav that I know is or ever has been, in favor of ignoring allegations of abuse. We all recognize the horrible, lifelong consequences of abuse and the need to act swiftly and resoundingly to protect victims from predators.
    • Despite these shared concerns and goals, we all must be aware that the Torah’s laws guide our every action. We may do, say, and believe that which the Torah permits, and we must refrain from that which the Torah prohibits. No end, as important and critical as it may be, justifies prohibited means.
    • Some of the technical issues that could stand in the way of the acceptance of an allegation of sexual abuse are the absence of the accused and the lack of witnesses.
    • Despite these issues, any allegation in a Beis Din of abuse will lead to Beis Din’s immediate demand that the accused maintain complete distance from the victim, which affords full protection for the future. If the accused violates this injunction, Beis Din will enforce it as necessary. Any implication from that which I originally posted to the contrary was unintentional.
    • If there are multiple allegations to the point that Beis Din suspects that the accused is guilty, even in the absence of witnesses, Beis Din will warn him to cease and desist from anything resembling inappropriate contact immediately. If he ignores this warning, Beis Din will banish him from the community with full force.
    • Today, in Eretz Yisrael, there are Batei Din that specialize in this field, which are fully proficient in the laws governing when the requirements for the presence of the accused and male and/or adult witnesses could be waived.
    • In general, one is not allowed to believe or pass along any negative information about another, even if it is in the newspaper.
    • In general, people expose themselves to needless amounts of unnecessary information about goings on through their ownership of certain devices and their subscription to various services. Blissful ignorance of the world around is infinitely preferable to a self-inflicted information barrage. I was very pleased to learn that most people without these devices and subscriptions were almost completely unaware of the CW tragedy, and very sad to learn that those who indulge were well informed of an astounding amount of harmful, sordid details.
    • Even when one is allowed to pass along negative information, it has to be for a constructive purpose. The most common constructive purpose is the protection of the one who will be hearing it, but there are other possibilities. There are many other conditions that have to be met regarding content and tone, and tests of altruism that must be passed. This is true even in cases of allegations of sexual abuse.
    • In a case of multiple reports of distinct sinning, the case has moved from the category of an alleged crime to that of one who has developed a reputation of sinning. Multiple reports are not equivalent to staggering evidence in support of the allegations. Nevertheless, developing such a reputation is a transgression in its own right, which allows Beis Din to punish the accused for it, and allows others to relate this information to the extent that it is purposeful.
    • In the CW case, the reports of sinning had reached this stage, allowing others to pass along these reports to the extent that it is purposeful to do so and that it is one’s intent. But it is not license for random slander. As always, one has to be very careful of his intentions. There is great harm to all concerned in relaying damaging information, even when permissible and even when necessary. Sometimes there is no choice, but it should be passed along with a heavy heart.
    • With CW’s passing, there is no longer any purpose in spreading these reports, even if there had been before. It has been explained to me by those with intimate knowledge of the Gedolim’s opinion that they desire that continued discussion of this topic should be brought to a halt immediately, because it is harmful to all concerned, especially to the young.
    • It is undeniable that CW left this world by taking his own life. Suicide is absolutely forbidden and it is equivalent to murder. Regardless of whatever he was going through, there is no justification for such a terrible act. This is a terrible, final legacy for him to have left his many present and potential future followers. Therefore, I was advised by a prominent Rav, in contradiction to my previous opinion, that there is no choice but to purge his books from the stores, from the libraries, and from our homes. It is certainly sad to have to give up one of the few truly valuable and appropriate series of contemporary books, but to hold on to them would only condone in some way this terrible crime. We cannot allow our children to think that suicide is ever acceptable, and that it is anything but murder. In addition, since the reports of other sinning had created their own reality of transgression, there is the risk of condoning that as well.
    • This tragedy should reinforce in us all the importance of avoiding situations of prohibited yichud. No one is immune, and it is asking for trouble.
    • It should also reinforce for us the dangers of inappropriate devices and social media. It exposes us to an overload of harmful images and information and enables widespread damage with a few thoughtless clicks. Yes, I mentioned this above but it is worth additional mention. Kosher phones are the best, by far. They prevent much grief and keep at a distance the sadness and unsavory details of the world at large.
    • Let us all pray for b’soros tovos.

    in reply to: Golem of Prague #2048362
    mobico
    Participant

    I think that the original poster is a golem- er, troll .

    in reply to: Music…Better? Worse? #2026085
    mobico
    Participant

    First is infinitely better. The only question is if it is Mamash l’Chatchilah or somewhat b’Dieved.

    in reply to: Life in Israel is hard for most isreilis #2022546
    mobico
    Participant

    The cited rental prices are very high for much of Yeurshalayim, too. Perhaps accurate for the center of town. In outlying Chareidi areas 2 bedrooms go for more like 4 to 5 thousand.

    in reply to: What is the inyan of daf yomi #2011605
    mobico
    Participant

    Simple and quick answer is that for someone who you describe – i.e., gains little from Daf Yomi and will actually spend the time on learning something properly – then yes, Daf Yomi is not for him. For many, though, it is a Mechayev, and a way to connect with Klal Yisrael. The consistency and dedication are big plusses. And even if he doesn’t understand all of everything, he picks up Yedios in Shas that will help him in his future learning and Yiddishkeit.

    in reply to: Short Skirts #2009687
    mobico
    Participant

    Refuse to consider Shidduchim for those who do not dress the part. Both families / Bachurim and Shadchanim.
    Obviously, there are some communities where these regulaer breaches of Halachah are “acceptable”. I’m talking about those who are making inroads where it is not yet the norm.

    in reply to: hoshanos ineptness #2009688
    mobico
    Participant

    In my observations, it is usually one or two people who find it difficult to move and read at the same time. All it takes is one person to stop the whole circle from moving.

    in reply to: COVID Vaccine and Fertility #2008114
    mobico
    Participant

    HaKatan – I researched and found the numbers, and did the math. Did you do either of these things?

    in reply to: COVID Vaccine and Fertility #2008101
    mobico
    Participant

    Worldwide, the current best estimates have 219 million total cases of Covid. 4.55 million have died. Do your own math.

    in reply to: COVID Vaccine and Fertility #2007949
    mobico
    Participant

    Covid affects fertility! One out of every 50 people who contract it die. And dead people can’t have children.

    in reply to: balding #2001981
    mobico
    Participant

    Nope. But maybe you weren’t careful enough with your Kavanos when you begged Hashem “כלה שעיר וחותנו”.

    in reply to: Loving your spouse #2001713
    mobico
    Participant

    And the Gemara in Kidushin is not an Asmachta – that doesn’t fit into the Gemara in any way.

    in reply to: Loving your spouse #2001712
    mobico
    Participant

    Avira, you misunderstood me. Obviously this Mitzvah applies to all Yidden. But husband and wife are, in essence, “Re’im ha’Ahuvim”. V’Hameivin Yavin.

    in reply to: Loving your spouse #2001555
    mobico
    Participant

    No time to look up details now, but the Rambam Paskens that it is a Chiyuv. And the Gemara at the beginning of the second Perek of Kidushin applies the aforementioned Pasuk of ve’Ahavta l’Re’acha Kamocha to one’s wife, and there is an argument to be made that it is the Ikar Kiyum of the Pasuk.

    in reply to: Why can’t we TALK??? #1999409
    mobico
    Participant

    Well, if the Gedolim say to take it – which they do – then perhaps saying otherwise IS Kefirah.

    in reply to: yaamod for a chasan or bar mitzvah #1994918
    mobico
    Participant

    I’m with Participant
    Participant

    in reply to: Going to the left #1992677
    mobico
    Participant

    I am no expert. and I live in E”Y, but I know many people with various forms of autism. I further know many families with children on the spectrum. I have not seen or felt a bias against such conditions.

    in reply to: Help needed – Rabbi Sacks #1954984
    mobico
    Participant

    He was a brilliant and moral man. A Ba’al Teshuvah of great conviction. A deep philosopher. S good Yid.

    He didn’t really learn in Yeshivos. Or have a Mehalech ha’Limud. He was not a Posek. Nor did he have a Rebbi similar to that which you seem to be seeking.

    And this was probably the Shoresh of the Machlokes.

    in reply to: Dr Seuss: anti-Jewish and anti-Black racism #1954195
    mobico
    Participant

    Reb huju,

    IMHO, there is a big difference between “most uses of stereotyping are negative” and “ban a post because it states that a stereotype could possibly be unharmful”.

    I differ – if Jews do not stereotypically study Talmud, then who does? And what do they do? Surely you have heard of “People of the Book”? If I had written “Torah”, would you have agreed?

    Your typical BJJ girl and Brisker would be thrilled to be called strereotypical. They typically went to these institutions, difficult to get in to and considered to be the top of their “industries”, because they positively identify with the mission and goal. They are proud to bear the title and reputation of a student of their school. Hence my point.

    And since we’re sharing, I happen to be conservative. But we have much in common, as I also love herring!

    in reply to: Dr Seuss: anti-Jewish and anti-Black racism #1954105
    mobico
    Participant

    Yserbius – Yes, I have. Have you seen pictures of grass-skirt-wearing African tribesmen? It is a fairly accurate representation. I have as much respect for them as any other Goy – that of a Tzelem Elokim. Why is it insulting to represent them as they are?
    huju: Here is an unbiased definition of stereotype (from a dictionary that has not been following this conversation): “A conventional or formulaic conception or image”. Note that “negatve” is nowhere to be found. For example, here is a good use of the word – “Jews stereotypically learn Talmud, pray three times a day, and eat herring”.

    in reply to: Dr Seuss: anti-Jewish and anti-Black racism #1954095
    mobico
    Participant

    Yserbius: Yes, I have. Have you ever seen pictures of actual grass skirt wearing African tribe members? I respect them as much as I do any of Hashem’s creations, which is quite a bit. But how does that make depicting them as they are derogatory?
    huju: Here is an official definition of stereotype: “A conventional or formulaic conception or image”. Note that “negative” is nowhere in the definition. The following statement is true: Jews stereotypically learn Talmud, pray three times a day, and eat herring. Is it insulting?

    in reply to: Dr Seuss: anti-Jewish and anti-Black racism #1954096
    mobico
    Participant

    Here’s another typical statement: A stereotypical BJJ girl would make a perfect Shidduch for a stereotypical Brisker Bochur. Anyone insulted?

    in reply to: Dr Seuss: anti-Jewish and anti-Black racism #1954040
    mobico
    Participant

    Ysernius,

    Your comparison is off. Your example is a DEROGATORY, INNACURATE racial stereotype. These in question are NON-DEROGATORY, ACCURATE stereotypes.
    A better comparison would be a popular children’s book from the 1930s talked about a visitor from Jerusalem showing a full-bearded, curly-sidelocked, fur-hatted, long-frocked man engaged in an old book.

    in reply to: Dr Seuss: anti-Jewish and anti-Black racism #1953791
    mobico
    Participant

    Dr. Suess was a German-American. In his youth, through college, he did exhibit racism and antisemitism in his writings. By the time WWII arrived, he was writing political cartoons, and they expressed strong condemnation of racism and antisemitism. On the other hand, they were virulently anti-Asian. This was the prevailing sentiment at the time, given that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. A decade later, he expressed remorse for this, and wrote “Horton Hears a Who” – not only dedicated to a Japanese friend after a trip to Japan, but with content that delivered a message of inclusiveness of all people – to make amends for his earlier views.
    Not so incidentally, the “Mulberry Street” book is being banned due to a line that refers to a “Chinaman eating a bowl of rice with sticks”. The accompanying illustration depicts said Chinaman eating said bowl with chopsticks and – horrors! – slanted lines for eyes. This is clearly hurtful to all people of Chinese descent who, true, have epicanthic folds and eat rice with stucks, but this is due to no fault of their own.
    Anyway, the original version referred to a “Yellow-faced Chinaman” – with a picture of a yellow-faced Chinaman – which is clearly not a compliment. A few years later the yellow face was edited out of both text and color. But we are now wiser and realize that Dr. Suess was still an insensitive soul.

    in reply to: What Hebrew font should I use for my English sefer? #1947116
    mobico
    Participant

    I have written hundreds of pages over the years with the two languages mixed. Try 12 pt. Calibri and 14 pt. bold David.

    in reply to: Biden’s First Word To Israel #1941395
    mobico
    Participant
    in reply to: Techeiles and Bal Tosif #1937286
    mobico
    Participant

    Jude – once again, there is no Mesora. No Rav I have spoken to or heard of maintains that this is a Chiyuv. How could it be, if there are big Machloksim among the Rishonim (Rashi – Rambam, for example), and this can only be Kosher Techeiles according to one at the most?

    Therefore, if one wears it b’Tzinah on one Beged, let’s say, while having in mind to be Yotazei Al ha’Tzad, then he has gained the possible fulfillment of this Mitzvah while losing nothing,

    in reply to: Techeiles and Bal Tosif #1934949
    mobico
    Participant

    Reb Eliezer,

    No. Mimah Nifshach you are only wearing one pair of Kosher Tefilin. However, to avoid APPEARANCES of Bal Tosif, the upper one should be covered.

    in reply to: Techeiles and Bal Tosif #1934920
    mobico
    Participant

    Yes, there could be.

    As someone who has spent many many hours researching the issue and has given a few Shiurim on the topic, I will say that there are about as many convincing arguments that the Murex dye is NOT Techeiles as there are that it is indeed Techeiles. (As an aside, this topic is almost Trump-like – it is very difficult to have a dispassionate discussion with knowledgeable people on the subject. Either you’re a Kofer is you don’t believe it is Techeiles or you’re a Kofer if you do.)
    Therefore – and I heard this directly from R’ Moshe Shternbuch Shlit”a – while it is true that one may wear colored Tztitzis threads, this is only if he is not Mechaven to be Mekayem a Mitzvah. If one wears the Murex threads believing them to be Techeiles and to fulfill the D’Oraisa and it turns out that they are not (and they absolutely CANNOT be according to ALL Rishonim), then he has transgressed Bal Tosif. (BTW, since there is no Mesora, there is def. no Bal Tigra here.)
    R’ Shternbuch holds that even if one is aware of the issues, then he ought not to wear this Techeiles since he will be Machshil others in thinking that it is Vadai Techeiles, leading to a Cheshash Bal Tosif. He conceded the point that there is no reason not to wear them B’Tzin’ah as long as one does so only Al ha’Tzad.

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